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Discuss racism and how it has affected the diaspora and others historically as well as it's current affects on our daily interactions. Personal experiences are important to this dialog...

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Racism in America (USA) 1 Reply

Started by Lydell Jackson. Last reply by Lydell Jackson Aug 3, 2011.

Symbols/Icons of Racism 1 Reply

Started by Lydell Jackson. Last reply by Ngon'e Aw May 16, 2011.

Don't Beleive the Hype 4 Replies

Started by Joseph Jones. Last reply by Joseph Jones May 4, 2011.

This is absolutely ridiculous 2 Replies

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Global Racism

Started by Lydell Jackson Oct 31, 2009.

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Comment by David 'PHULL' Dalgleish on November 19, 2010 at 5:11am
Greeting Ngon'e. No, I'm just exasperated with the popularity of these clowns.

But as you mention not getting past the messenger to the message, do you mean the one about the African bulldog-spermed stud and the white trash Mum? Or the exasperation at that Texan clown was just a front for racial sympathy? Or the fact on that point: he invokes MLKs "not on colour of skin but content of character" and then goes to town on his ethnicity?

So yeah, I think I got the message. There isn't one, it's just ranting because he clearly dislikes Obama.

As it happens my opinion of him has waned, even if I didn't buy all the pre-election hoopla. However, I'm not going to hold him to a higher standard because he isn't white.

I did comment on the World Conference point - see below. I just don't want to write an essay about how I didn't get lamb from a cow.

I'm glad you found it interesting though ;)

Respectfully,

David
Comment by Ngon'e Aw on November 19, 2010 at 4:09am


Well David, looks like another who cannot get past the messenger into the message, very interesting. No comments on the fact that a Black CEO of the US Corporation boycotted The World Conference on Racism,
and not a whimper. not a peep, ...yes I'm aware it's
poli-trics as usual in the Oval Office, whether your White, Black or from outer space. That's not the issue. Black people running around talking about how our children can now look up and believe they can acheive what ever they want, but see how phony that is, see how we lie to ourselves and our children. We can only point the finger out a white people who do not behave they way we think they should behave, and not at A Black man in the Oval office and Haiti is being Genocided, while his behind is on a trip to India spending how many millions? and not a peep, not a whimper?
The military government of Burma (Myanmar) released Nobel Laureate Aung San Suu Kyi from seven years' detention, The same Black man praising her release, and his milatary is gov. is now making another move on Mumia, not a peep, not a whimper?
Do we have two sets of standards, one for how "white racist" should behave and another for "others" in order to not be given the racist crown award? Would we be so calm and passive if a "white racist was in the Oval office doing the Queens bidding at our exspense?
Looks like Rev. Manning is right on point, he is telling it like "WE " is.

Comment by David 'PHULL' Dalgleish on November 19, 2010 at 2:59am
I'm generally 8 hours ahead of the west coast so I would suggest a time that enables as many to contribute i.e. 10pm for me would be 5pm for Emilio and 2pm for Joseph. I would suggest a Saturday or Sunday too as people may be at work but I am easy. I am free the weekend of the 27th/28th, or could most days in the first two weeks of December excluding the 9th.

Reverend Manning is clearly the inspiration for Uncle Ruckus on the Boondocks. How the f--k do these church leaders get a congregation in the first place?

USA government will not engage in a conference that remotely criticises Israel. The questions is, do governments need to be there? The people should make the changes that need to be made not these institutions.
Comment by Ngon'e Aw on November 18, 2010 at 10:33pm



As always Lydell, thanks for your feedback, I'll let someone else have the floor now...


Comment by Lydell Jackson on November 18, 2010 at 10:09pm
Once again you got me on the flo! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! You should come with a warning label. And again you leave me no room to deny a word...

Thank you....(smile)
Comment by Ngon'e Aw on November 18, 2010 at 9:32pm


Great contribution, the video is interesting, however did we not all react to Manning exactly the way the video said we should not?

I personally think exploring why that is might be revealing, however perhaps I am the only one who thinks that, so I will follow your lead for now.

I recall when working in a large corporate environment in the 60's, we had civil rights on the tip of our tongue and openly complained about if we felt our rights had been abused. In the 90's there was a shift, the video you posted reminded me of that immediately, it was "tacit knowledge," we no longer should mention " racism" we now had human resource departments and all that was supposedly handled and overcome in the workplace, but in reality it was not and still is not. So this approach seems to me,

1. to require censorship of other's intentions IE, mention of "water-melon" as racist, is it really? I suppose that would depend on the context in which it was mentioned in relation to certain groups of people, other wise it would seem to me to be over-sensitivity on someones part to take it personal?
I do not think pretending we all the same until we are all treated the same "voluntary, (from the heart), is going to work.

2. It seems the approach in the video is outward directed and not self reflective, I think both are needed or we will forever be pointing the finger outward and never inward taking responsiblity for our own "reactions".

3. Frankly I think if people are racist that is their right and their problem to be inhibited and mentally ill as long as they do not infringe on me or harm me in any way,
but I also have some responsibility in not allowing that harm to myself. Racism cannot be regulated or legislated or managed effectively, in my view..why is it a given one even respond to a racist, unless of course your in danger of physical harm or your addressing, racist laws
like " Blacks only water fountain" etc. Personally I could care less what some red kneck thinks or says, as long as they keep their hands to their self. The energy to challenge that type of retard is wasted in my view.

4. At the rate the Royal DNA is being loaned out , in about 50 yrs we probably won't see any "Black" people.


Comment by Lydell Jackson on November 18, 2010 at 8:45pm
Can we turn this conversation toward ideas for at least developing better coping mechanisms and better responses to racist ideas when they are presented? Since we pretty much know that this issue is not going to disappear in the forseable future just because we acknowledge its existance in detail...
Just knowing how to navigate the racist system can go a long way to improving how we feel about each other as humans...

I really don't want to get into who specifically is doing what to whom, but more into what to do when racist issue arise...Like this video does so well...

Comment by Ngon'e Aw on November 18, 2010 at 8:33pm

Lydell, As you can see we almost crossed posted each other, I appreciate your openess and honesty and I think the first question I wondered about was, what is it inside me that made me react to him in disgust? Beyond the do not like the old time religous presentation, as a side bar, Manning is an educated college graduate.

I think he stricks more ___?_____ fear, disgust, etc, than the KKK? Perhaps that is not the case for others?


I am just wondering why?
Comment by Lydell Jackson on November 18, 2010 at 8:30pm
On Obama and Israel...If that was indeed all that kept him from the anit-racism conference...that is a sad comentary in itself...I'm not as savvy as I should be on international politics especially the history between the U.S., Israel and Palastine...That may take the rest of my lifetime to comprehend...
Comment by Ngon'e Aw on November 18, 2010 at 8:25pm
REFLECTIONS:

"I am not prejudiced"

http://gawker.com/5688054/postal-worker-secretly-films-customers-ra...

commentor wrote:
"She drops the N-bomb several times, suggests "white people" will kill him, slaps him, suggests black women don't want black men, that all black men are educational subnormal, refers to race and pseudo-scientific IQ test scores.

Then @0:59 "I'm not prejudiced".

REFLECTIONS:

Did we feel the same disgust?


With all due respect, Lydell, you are the board owner, I am not challenging your decisons, just want to say in regards to Brother Joesph's response, what happened to convergence? Can we really heal the sickness of racism inside us and outside us by compartmentalizing our responses and not facing the uncomfortable regardless of how and who delivers it? Can we not share our reactions that may overlap close to the edges of the main topic? What touches one may be different than what touches another in another space based on personal experiences.

Is there any real separation in the Human family or the Universe?
Or is that which separates ,
(racism) (religion) (ethnicity) all constructs designed to maintain fragmentation and arrested development?



 

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