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The America we are today is not necessarily what we think. Our history needs to be carefully examined. Help reveal a how we got to be where we are today. Move America and the world in a new direction...forever forward.

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Truth Will Prevail In America and the World

"Patriotism is a devotion to a certain place and people. Contrary to nationalism, which is inseparable from lust and power."
~George Orwell~

THE CORPORATION

Review by Kenneth Chisholm:

"Since the late 18th century American legal decision
that the business corporation organizational model
is legally a person, it has become a dominant economic,
political and social force around the globe. This film
takes an in-depth psychological examination of the
organization model through various case studies. What
the study illustrates is that in the its behavior,
this type of "person" typically acts like a dangerously
destructive psychopath without conscience. Furthermore,
we see the profound threat this psychopath has for our
world and our future, but also how the people with
courage, intelligence and determination
can stop it."

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Please follow the link to the video below it is a must see!
THE GREAT DEPRESSION

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PR or Propaganda? 4 Replies

Thank you to Sister Ngon'e Aw for posting this video in another location. I thought it would be good to post it here as well! This is real American History!Continue

Tags: media, threats, security, Class, War

Started by Lydell Jackson. Last reply by Ngon'e Aw May 27, 2011.

Putting the woman back to being 1st. 6 Replies

Hotep LL fam, I hope you all had a restful and insightful weekend. Today I want to talk about a topic that has been lost and misplaced in America for longer than many of us consciously realize. The place of the woman in society. Unfortunately for…Continue

Tags: inspirational, birth, Woman

Started by Joseph Jones. Last reply by Joseph Jones Apr 29, 2011.

The Answer 11 Replies

Greetings conscious as well as unconscious minds. I know the last two blogs I posted on Barak Obama and our society were head knockers. I didn't want to leave any of you hanging with questions on "what should we do now?" I have turned over that…Continue

Started by Joseph Jones. Last reply by Lydell Jackson Mar 30, 2011.

World Leaders? Or World Criminals? 13 Replies

Egypt - The events of the past few weeks in Egypt have not only gotten the world's attention, but have also inspired the oppressed in other nations to follow suit in an effort to bring change to the world as they know it as well. The reign of…Continue

Started by Joseph Jones. Last reply by Ngon'e Aw Mar 25, 2011.

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Comment by Ngon'e Aw on March 24, 2011 at 12:58am

 

Thanks Lydell,  Hope this is not considered off topic, to under-stand America we must over-stand our true status and when you check this video out light bulbs will go off,

 

 

Comment by Lydell Jackson on March 23, 2011 at 9:02pm
@Kevin - I coulda told you about Sister Ngon'e Aw, but I felt like you and everyone else should experience "The Professer" LOL...You can't begin to know her unless you are willing to grow! I knew you would appreciate her being here!
Comment by Kevin Thomas on March 23, 2011 at 8:06pm

@Ngon'e Aw  I have to call you Professor, because you are teaching and sharing some great information here.  I will definitely look into the books, DVD, and articles you recommended.

Also, you never responded to my question about what are the actions that flow from the belief that we are not citizens?

Thanks 

Comment by Ngon'e Aw on March 23, 2011 at 3:49am

 

Lydell, My compliments;  You are so right!

Your words of wisdom, and the spiritual message you shared I agree with  whole heartedly, awakening, we must know the truth of our status in this society we have lived an illusion, and because of it we can be easily manipulated.  As we all know, they do not even teach the true history to the young people, so we must teach it to ourselves.

 "Our people perish for the lack of knowledge".

Much Respect

Comment by Lydell Jackson on March 22, 2011 at 11:52pm

@Juan...You are right and believe me the Native Americans are more pissed and there are other forums online where they voice their discontent regularly (that is where I found the native american video above). But this is about more than who is a legitimate "American Citizen" or to whom the land we live on belongs to, or who should be pissed. In understanding "the real America" we need to also understand not only the origins of all it's peoples and their cultures but how we truely have come to the place we are at this moment as human beings and what that means for our collective future. "American, Native American, Mexican, African, European, Asian, German and on and on and on. These are all labels that have been used to categories in order to divide humans into social groups for manipulation by those who developed the idea of classes so that they could justify using specific groups to build wealth and nations. At some point in the history of the world including America those labels did not exist. That (in my mind) is where we all need to return to. We should all as humans think about moving forward so that we can return, not to the near, but the distant past...far from where we have arrived today in America and the world! I hope to see you all when we get back to that place. Collectively as humans we will return to that place in time and because of all the trauma we have experienced we will have a greater appreciation and love for the land and all it's people. We will all return to the land before "America".

I believe this can you?

Comment by Juan on March 22, 2011 at 11:17pm
I wish I was a well read as some of the posters here. But don't ya think the indigenous people, (Native Americans, Indians, etc) should be more pissed? They were minding their own business before Chris set foot on the land.
Comment by Ngon'e Aw on March 22, 2011 at 11:03pm

Well Kevin, thank you for your reply and I respect you sentiments, heard it all before, it is what is called "civics" unfortunately we have been lied to about the true history of this country. I will not try to convince you away from your beliefs, sure I would not be able to any way, I just simply suggest that you research and learn the truth and not the myths. Governments are to govern by the "consent" of the people, but as I shared previously, the fact remains, according to the Supreme court America is not nor ever has been a country, it is a society, there are many Nations on the Continent of America. That society began with the Articles of Confederation, they have nothing to do with our Ancestry,  I suggest you read it, and then you will see our Ancestors were not included, the 14Th amdnment is unlawful and has also been ruled as such by the Supreme court, so, regardless of anyones patriotic feelings, it does not change the facts. I'm wondering if you watch the two part documentary entitled: "The US Is Not A Country, The Book They Never Wanted You To Read? It is an excellent documentary and will give you much insight into the real situation.  Also, a reading of the 14TH Amendment will be very revealing, as it has everything to do with commerece and not "citizenship of descendents of enslaved African people.

 

The Articles of Confederation - The U.S. Constitution Online ...
Oct 18, 2010 ... A Hypertext version of the United States' Articles of Confederation.

http://www.usconstitution.net/articles.html

 

 

 

Much respect

Comment by Kevin Thomas on March 22, 2011 at 10:00pm

Thanks for sharing the excellent video and article.  I just subscribed to the channel...

Your comments bring to mind something I heard Minister Farrakhan say years ago.  He said, "You are not now, nor have you ever been a citizen of the United States."

 

I would ask what are the actions that flow from that belief?  I would think there would be a level of non participation in the society.  Certainly, voting should be out of the question because that is a right and duty of citizenship.  Maybe not paying income taxes is an action that should flow from that belief.  Or should we leave the country, or just advocate for our own nation within the US the way the NOI advocates?  I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this.

 

Farrakhan also said, "You didn't come hear on the Nina, the Pinta, or the Santa Maria."  On this point, he is correct.  I was born here like most Americans.  My parents were born here; my grandparents were born here as were theirs.  

 

No group in this country can lay claim to the rights of citizenship more than my own.  We had to fight and die for all of the basic rights of citizenship, from voting, to housing, to freedom of speech.  No ethnic group in this country has paid a higher price.  If we (African Americans) are not citizens, then no one in this country can claim that status.

 

So I claim citizenship by birthright, by bloodshed, by love of country, and by signing my name on the dotted line to serve this country.  I am an American with no qualifiers.  I would go one step further and identify myself as an American Nationalist.  That means I love my country the way Castro loves Cuba, the way Hugo Chavez loves Venezuela.

 

What are the actions that flow being an American Nationalist?  The call to action is a simple one:  to get informed and get involved.  We see the world from this progressive perspective:  "What is best for America?"  This is the question that informs American Nationalists, and this is the question that our so called representatives at the federal level have not asked in decades.

 

We have too many people that live here, but neither identify with nor  embrace America.  You can see this by asking your co-workers tomorrow what nationality they are.  You will find that there is not one American in the office.  I see this as a problem.  Someone has to embrace America, so it might as well be me:  the only American in the  

 office!

Comment by Ngon'e Aw on March 22, 2011 at 2:32am
Greetings Kevin, in truth we are not governed, due to the usurpation of the Djure gov in 1860 under Lincoln, who initiated Martial law which is still in effect today. The organic Cons-titution was replaced by the Defacto Corporate Cons-titution in 1791. The U.S. is a corporation,

you asked: "Citizen: what are you prepared to do?"

I ask: Are we citizens?

The 14Th Amendment was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme court and was not properly ratified. Even if it had been, can a people who enslaved your ancestors impose National identity on the descendents of those they enslaved? The answer is no, not according to International law. The second question is, how can we be "citizens" of a corporation?


The United States Isn't a Country — It's a Corporation! by Lisa Guliani .... Realize, too, that the corporation is not a separate and distinct entity from ...read more
www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm

Part 1 of 2


peace
Comment by Kevin Thomas on January 25, 2011 at 7:53pm

I've learned that when speaking about this country, it's important to distinguish between the people, which I call America or the American people, and the government, which I call the US or the US government.  The US is widening the gap between the two by failing to represent America.  Instead, it has chosen to become a servant of big business.

 

This is bad for America.  The government's role is to regulate big business because of business' practice of profits over people, and its tendency to lean toward exploitation and corruption.  We are in Iraq today because Big Business wanted access to the second largest oil reserves in the world.

 

We the people must take responsibility for correcting our governments present anti-American course.  And so I ask you, "Citizen:  what are you prepared to do?"

 

 

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